,Subject: Gary on line,To: numan@cs.uwp.edu,,Derek, I think we all owe you a great round of applause and a hearty,thanks for all of the work you have done. The results are worth it, to,be able to ask GN question online and to visit his upcoming web site,*and* to be hopeful of obtaining Berzerker on CD was quite a coup.,Thank you from the bottom of my heart! What a way to start my day, I'll,be smiling in spite of myself for the rest of the day!,,Amy Logsdon Warner,University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee,,My opinions are my own and I'm pretty sure they aren't those of this,institution.,,------------------------------,,Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 16:08:19 -0700 (PDT),From: Bob ,Subject: Hello fellow Numan fans,To: numan@cs.uwp.edu,,Hello all, I am new to this mailing list, and I am writing a bit about,myself like the intruduction suggested. My name's Noah, I'm too young to,remember any early Numan. But I own quite a few of his albums, I am,really fond of "I, Assasin" "Replicas" "Dance" I have "Living Ornaments",on video and LP I really like listening to my "Change your mind" 12" I,found (been looking for it for a long time) I like ke the Tubeway Army as,well. (weren't they originally called "The Lasers?") My orther music,tastes are a wide range. I mostly listen to Peter Murphy and a lot of 4AD,stuff (Cocteau Twins, DCD, etc.) Like a lot of Bauhaus-L&R-ToT music...I,am also very big on new wave. Well that's just about all, hope to get the,Numan News Digest soon., Cheers, -Noah,,------------------------------,,Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:19:45 -0700 (PDT),From: atomic@netcom.com (Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City),Subject: minor points,To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Numanews Mailing List),,Derek, thanks for the welcome news about Gary's onlineness; I hope he,doesn't get hunted down and spammed by well-meaning fans who think that,'he won't mind if only I talk to him'....,,If you read this, Gary, welcome and it's nice to see you here on the Net.,,And I'll put in my vote for enjoying meeting the guy; we met at a show,in Cleveland on the "I Assassin" tour. I was nervous as heck but he was,very relaxed and friendly. A nice experience overall.,,E please bob,,,mike,--,mike metlay * atomic city | .......one new telephone - a pressure cooker - a, = atomic@netcom.com = | ventilator - four bars of chocolate - six pairs,cd mailorder po box 81175 | of socks - a yellow clock - a pink ski shell - a,pittsburgh, pa 15217-0675 | box of condoms - one baby leopard - a pot of jam,or order from our website | - a safety pin - an iron - a red shoe - a camera,http://pd.net/atomic-city | - one ton of peanuts - a black bra - a silver,or via infinite illusions | fork - a typewriter - an electric train - three,toll free: 1-800-548-6724 | tons of strawberriestrawberriestrawberries......,,------------------------------,,Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 16:32:24 +0000,From: "iwisman" ,Subject: Numan and MTV,To: numan@cs.uwp.edu,,I saw it came from the eighties and commented in the last digest. I,agree it is sad that only cars was played. Oh those ignorant,bastards. As I stated before I did see "We Take Mystery to Bed one,time on MTV in the early eighties, "I Assassin version" although I,would like to see the extended or early version. Of of I wonder if a,video of "Music for Chameleons" extended version exists. If I ever,,meet Gary,,,------------------------------,,Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:04:55 -0400 (EDT),From: rmilam@st6000.sct.edu (Ralph Milam),Subject: Numan Fan!!!!,To: numan@cs.uwp.edu,,I just thought I would write to get more info on what you are doing with the,Gary Numan digest,etc. I just got an Internet account and was looking,around for Numan stuff and I saw the digest. I thought I was about the,only fan of his in the U.S. and was giving up hope of finding other people,interested in him. So you can imagine my surprise at finding you and the,others. Anyway I hope to hear back from you with maybe some more,information. Thank You!,,Ralph Milam,rmilam@st6000.sct.edu,,------------------------------,,Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:14:06 -0800,From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford),Subject: Response to Andre's Qs,To: numan@cs.uwp.edu,,In #147 ANDRE LORTIE <102162.2077@compuserve.com> wrote:,,DISCOGRAPHY,-------------,>Downloaded the discography this week , there are a few omissions (2,>>versions of Your fascination , 2 compilation albums on Receiver records,>& >a single , Like a refugee ( I wont cry) on which Gary`s voice is,>simply / >utterly fantastic in case you haven`t heard it. When is the next,>update >planned ?,,Planned? Who says anything here planned? :-),,Jeff Tolva did the last update but as you say, there are still some things,that need to be added. Someday someone may get around to it. That's the,best I can promise.,,DREAM CORROSION AND DARK LIGHT,------------------------------,>Dream Corrosion is listed but I keep seeing people talking about Dark,>>Light ,are they one and the same?,,No, they are different live double albums. "Dream Corrosion" was released,in October 94 and was the London leg of Gary's 1993 UK concert tour. "Dark,Light" was released June 5 1995 and is one of the London shows from Gary's,1994 Sacrifice Tour. Only 5 tracks are the same on each so they make a,pretty good companion too each other. DC sound quality is below par but DL,sounds great. Does anyone have a DC CD that sound sharp? Perhaps I'll,follow it up with Gary in the first "Gary's Questions" as he has already,indicated it should sound crisp and clear which clearly many of ours do,not.,,>Which brings me to what I`m missing :,> I still remember,> Adrenalin,> My world storm,> Dream corrosion( aka Dark Light ?),>Not bad for a guy that lives in a city where about 2 stores carry his,>>music! Any chance of my finding them?,,"I Still Remember" is on "The Fury" but the CD is rare having gone out of,print many years ago. It will also be on one of the Uk Fan Club-only,Babylon CDs.,,"Adrenalin" was released as Numan/Yen and was put out as a CD5 to my,knowledge. IRS though have washed their hands of Numan and Yen product so,finding it will again be hard.,,My World Storm is an album track from "Outland" adn also appreared on 12",vinyl in the USA. Again you'll need luck finding it. Tony B.- do you have,it for sale?,,DC should be available on CD easily. Like "Dark Light" it is an import,only from the UK.,,USE OF GARY'S MUSIC IN ADS,--------------------------,>Last year the music for Cars was used here in Quebec for a beer commercial,>(Labatt`s Ice), complete with rotating pyramids a la Pleasure Principle,>era >,it was a very sci-fi / numanish piece, but how does Gary feel about,>his >music being associated with this product ? I thought he didn`t drink,>or has thecopyright expired or what ? Then again if he was well paid for,>it`s use why not...,,Tony Webb, Gary's dad and manager, said it is usually fans who bring usage,of Gary's music in ads, films etc. to their attention. Gary does not have,rights to the Beggars Banquet era catalogue so he cannot control useage of,it for ads.,,TOURING WITH GARY,-----------------,>Seems a LOT of us are planning a trip in the UK for `96 ,I`m very much,>interested in keeping up on this...As for meeting him I guess we`d all,>want >that and I think he really likes his fans but how would you react,>if a >bunch of fans from overseas think they`re somehow more special,>than >others? Of course from our perspective we are and we help keep the,>dream >alive just like any fan , our problem is being so far and out of,>touch, >we`d really hope for something extra like a chat or an,>autograph.You can be >sure that if we`d live in the UK we`d have seen him,>again and again and I >for one wouldn`t feel so frustrated , I could see,>him tour once a year.How >do you reconcile our needs and his wish for some,>distance ...? I ask this >for the sake of doing it properly and out of,>respect for the artist. I`d >like everyone to really enjoy the,>experience.,,As Jeff Tolva posted last week, the Numan organization does make special,efforts for people coming from far-off to see Gary perform. I think Gary,would be glad to at least say hello to those who have travelled 1000s of,miles and spent much money just to see him. I emailed Joe Lindstrom, with details of how to go about making,arrangements to see Gary tour and make contact with Beryl Webb, his mother.,If people organise in a group it might be possible to follow Gary on tour,and even meet him. I think Joe is the central person to contact at this,point,,Good luck to all who are planning to make the trip. Many highly improbable,events would have to happen for me to be able to join you.,,,Derek,,--------------------------------------------------------------------------,Derek H. Langsford dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu,Dept. of Biology Tel. (619) 594 2885,San Diego State University Fax (619) 594 7831,--------------------------------------------------------------------------,,------------------------------,,Date: Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:02:00 UTC,From: king1@genie.geis.com,Subject: Road Trip!,To: numan@cs.uwp.edu,,I also am planning on going to the UK to see Numan.,Derek, do you think that there is a way to let the folks at Numa know,that there are fans hopping the pond to see "The Man"?,,As the time draws closer we could find out who is going and when.,,It'd be great if you could join us, you do want the baby to see home,don't you?,,Shane,,------------------------------,,Date: Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:24:22 EDT,From: Richard.Paiement@crc.doc.ca (Richard V. Paiement),Subject: White Noise/Berserker & videotapes,To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan),,Derek informed us that:,,>Gary and I have exchanged emails and we have settled on a way for him to,>be part of the Digest. He is willing to participate but on a strictly,>limited basis.,,Excellent news. As always, Derek and his much appreciated efforts make this,forum much more interesting. We could even suggest to Gary that he make,available exclusive snippets of new or unavailable audio material as .wav or,other format files for all of us.,,Derek was replying to BDahlvang@aol.com:,,>> The White Noise tape is perhaps a bootleg. It's,>>from the Berserker tour. I had heard years ago that it's a double album,>>set--White Noise and Berserker. Is that true? And if so, where can I,>>acquire another copy of White Noise?,,>The cassette was NUMAC 1002 and was not a bootleg. I don't know if it was,>ever officially marketed with "Berserker".,,White Noise is a double vinyl album by itself. I have never heard of any,packaging of Berserker (single LP studio) with White Noise (double LP live).,,>>I even had a video of the Berserker,>>tour, but it only worked in Brittish VCRs. I Couldn't use it in the states.,,>There was a US release in 1993 of about 1 hour of the original show.,,There is a very unclear story behind all of this. I have two different NTSC,versions (not transfers, not copies, but the original releases with,pre-printed tape labels and box sleeve) of this Berserker live videotape,,one which is about 1 hour long, and another which is closer to 2 hours long.,I never really sat down to compare both, but they are for sure of the same,tour, and I don't know if they are of the same show! I can add that I,acquired both of these in record stores at different times, one around 1988,,and another around 1990. There is very little information on the packaging,,except that I do remember one of the tapes was issued by Castle,Communications. Does anyone know why the different NTSC versions, and is,this also the case with the PAL (UK) formats?,,Matthew, one of the latest members on the digest, mentioned:,,>Numanoids won't like me for saying this, but I like most music.,,Geez! If you could see my Numan collection, I think I would qualify as a,Numanoid, and if you could also see my entire music collection, you wouldn't,feel so out of place, as I also like most music. In fact, I am quite,categoric in that I love and enjoy a wide variety of styles, and can listen,to just about anything... except country & western.,,W.A. Michie asked:,,>Hi - just found the NetSite for GN. I'm wondering if anyone knows if there's a,>CD version of "Pump it up" - something I have on vinyl back in the states (on,,This is from the Berserker album, available (now deleted, of course) as,vinyl, cassette and CD (I have all three), and as Derek informed us in the,last digest, will soon be available again on CD (as an import only, no,douht), thanks to NUMA.,,Richard Paiement,richard@dgbt.doc.ca,Ottawa CANADA,,------------------------------,,End of Gary Numan Digest,******************************, _______________________________________________________________________, _____ ____ ____ _____ _____, / \ | | / \ / \ / \ / \, | |-----| |-----| | |-----| |-----| |, | | G | | A | | | R | | Y | |, | | | | | | | | | | |, | |-----| |-----| | |-----| |-----| |, | | | | | | | | | | |, | | | | | | | | | | |, | | | | | | | | | | |, | | | | N | E | W | S |=====| | |, | | | | | & | | | | |, | | \_____/ I | N | F | O | | | |,, is produced and distributed by Derek Langsford, dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu,,--------------------------------------------------------------------------,To reply to the messages in this list, mail to:,, numan@cs.uwp.edu,,If you want to be removed, or someone wants to be added, you can mail to,, numan-request@cs.uwp.edu,, -----------------, The Gary Numan Digest is brought to you via,,Datta Production and Development, 905 97th Street, Kenosha, WI 53143 USA, datta@cs.uwp.edu, and, computer resources courtesy of University of Wisconsin-Parkside, and Datta Production and Development.,,All of the opinions in this digest belong to the respective authors and,do not necessarily agree with those of Datta Production and Development.,Datta Production and Development is not affiliated with University Of,Wisconsin - Parkside or the University of Wisconsin System.,-------------------------------------------------------------------------- from KaraokeMe.com">
,Subject:,Gary,on,line,To:,numan@cs.uwp.edu,Derek,I,think,all,owe,you,great,round,applause,and,hearty,thanks,for,all,work,you,have,done.,The,results,worth,to,be,able,to,ask,GN,question,online,and,to,visit,his,upcoming,web,site,*and*,to,be,hopeful,obtaining,Berzerker,on,CD,quite,coup.,Thank,you,bottom,my,heart!,What,way,to,start,my,day,I'll,be,smiling,spite,myself,for,rest,day!,Amy,Logsdon,Warner,University,Wisconsin-Milwaukee,My,opinions,my,own,and,I'm,pretty,sure,aren't,those,institution.,------------------------------,Date:,Thu,10,Aug,1995,16:08:19,-0700,(PDT),From:,Bob,,Subject:,Hello,fellow,Numan,fans,To:,numan@cs.uwp.edu,Hello,all,I,am,new,to,mailing,list,and,I,am,writing,bit,about,myself,like,intruduction,suggested.,My,name's,Noah,I'm,too,young,to,remember,early,Numan.,But,I,own,quite,few,his,albums,I,am,really,fond,"I,Assasin","Replicas","Dance",I,have,"Living,Ornaments",on,video,and,LP,I,really,like,listening,to,my,"Change,your,mind",12",I,found,(been,looking,for,for,long,time),I,like,ke,Tubeway,Army,as,well.,(weren't,originally,called,"The,Lasers?"),My,orther,music,tastes,wide,range.,I,mostly,listen,to,Peter,Murphy,and,lot,4AD,stuff,(Cocteau,Twins,DCD,etc.),Like,lot,Bauhaus-L&R-ToT,music...I,am,also,very,big,on,new,wave.,Well,that's,just,about,all,hope,to,get,Numan,News,Digest,soon.,Cheers,-Noah,------------------------------,Date:,Thu,10,Aug,1995,09:19:45,-0700,(PDT),From:,atomic@netcom.com,(Mike,Metlay,++,Atomic,City),Subject:,minor,points,To:,numan@cs.uwp.edu,(Numanews,Mailing,List),Derek,thanks,for,welcome,news,about,Gary's,onlineness;,I,hope,doesn't,get,hunted,down,and,spammed,by,well-meaning,fans,who,think,'he,won't,mind,if,only,I,talk,to,him'....,If,you,read,Gary,welcome,and,it's,nice,to,see,you,here,on,Net.,And,I'll,put,my,vote,for,enjoying,meeting,guy;,met,at,show,Cleveland,on,"I,Assassin",tour.,I,nervous,as,heck,but,very,relaxed,and,friendly.,A,nice,experience,overall.,E,please,bob,mike,--,mike,metlay,*,atomic,city,|,.......one,new,telephone,-,pressure,cooker,-,=,atomic@netcom.com,=,|,ventilator,-,four,bars,chocolate,-,six,pairs,cd,mailorder,po,box,81175,|,socks,-,yellow,clock,-,pink,ski,shell,-,pittsburgh,pa,15217-0675,|,box,condoms,-,one,baby,leopard,-,pot,jam,or,order,our,website,|,-,safety,pin,-,iron,-,red,shoe,-,camera,http://pd.net/atomic-city,|,-,one,ton,peanuts,-,black,bra,-,silver,or,via,infinite,illusions,|,fork,-,typewriter,-,electric,train,-,three,toll,free:,1-800-548-6724,|,tons,strawberriestrawberriestrawberries......,------------------------------,Date:,Thu,10,Aug,1995,16:32:24,+0000,From:,"iwisman",,Subject:,Numan,and,MTV,To:,numan@cs.uwp.edu,I,saw,came,eighties,and,commented,last,digest.,I,agree,sad,only,cars,played.,Oh,those,ignorant,bastards.,As,I,stated,before,I,did,see,"We,Take,Mystery,to,Bed,one,time,on,MTV,early,eighties,"I,Assassin,version",although,I,would,like,to,see,extended,or,early,version.,Of,I,wonder,if,video,"Music,for,Chameleons",extended,version,exists.,If,I,ever,meet,Gary,------------------------------,Date:,Fri,11,Aug,1995,22:04:55,-0400,(EDT),From:,rmilam@st6000.sct.edu,(Ralph,Milam),Subject:,Numan,Fan!!!!,To:,numan@cs.uwp.edu,I,just,thought,I,would,write,to,get,more,info,on,what,you,doing,with,Gary,Numan,digest,etc.,I,just,got,Internet,account,and,looking,around,for,Numan,stuff,and,I,saw,digest.,I,thought,I,about,only,fan,his,U.S.,and,giving,up,hope,finding,other,people,interested,him.,So,you,can,imagine,my,surprise,at,finding,you,and,others.,Anyway,I,hope,to,hear,back,you,with,maybe,some,more,information.,Thank,You!,Ralph,Milam,rmilam@st6000.sct.edu,------------------------------,Date:,Fri,11,Aug,1995,15:14:06,-0800,From:,dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu,(Derek,Langsford),Subject:,Response,to,Andre's,Qs,To:,numan@cs.uwp.edu,In,#147,ANDRE,LORTIE,<102162.2077@compuserve.com>,wrote:,DISCOGRAPHY,-------------,>Downloaded,discography,week,there,few,omissions,(2,>>versions,Your,fascination,2,compilation,albums,on,Receiver,records,>&,>a,single,Like,refugee,(,I,wont,cry),on,which,Gary`s,voice,>simply,/,>utterly,fantastic,case,you,haven`t,heard,it.,When,next,>update,>planned,?,Planned?,Who,says,anything,here,planned?,:-),Jeff,Tolva,did,last,update,but,as,you,say,there,still,some,things,need,to,be,added.,Someday,someone,may,get,around,to,it.,That's,best,I,can,promise.,DREAM,CORROSION,AND,DARK,LIGHT,------------------------------,>Dream,Corrosion,listed,but,I,keep,seeing,people,talking,about,Dark,>>Light,one,and,same?,No,different,live,double,albums.,"Dream,Corrosion",released,October,94,and,London,leg,Gary's,1993,UK,concert,tour.,"Dark,Light",released,June,5,1995,and,one,London,shows,Gary's,1994,Sacrifice,Tour.,Only,5,tracks,same,on,each,so,make,pretty,good,companion,too,each,other.,DC,sound,quality,below,par,but,DL,sounds,great.,Does,anyone,have,DC,CD,sound,sharp?,Perhaps,I'll,follow,up,with,Gary,first,"Gary's,Questions",as,has,already,indicated,should,sound,crisp,and,clear,which,clearly,many,ours,do,not.,>Which,brings,me,to,what,I`m,missing,:,>,I,still,remember,>,Adrenalin,>,My,world,storm,>,Dream,corrosion(,aka,Dark,Light,?),>Not,bad,for,guy,lives,city,where,about,2,stores,carry,his,>>music!,Any,chance,my,finding,them?,"I,Still,Remember",on,"The,Fury",but,CD,rare,having,gone,print,many,years,ago.,It,will,also,be,on,one,Uk,Fan,Club-only,Babylon,CDs.,"Adrenalin",released,as,Numan/Yen,and,put,as,CD5,to,my,knowledge.,IRS,though,have,washed,hands,Numan,and,Yen,product,so,finding,will,again,be,hard.,My,World,Storm,album,track,"Outland",adn,also,appreared,on,12",vinyl,USA.,Again,you'll,need,luck,finding,it.,Tony,B.-,do,you,have,for,sale?,DC,should,be,available,on,CD,easily.,Like,"Dark,Light",import,only,UK.,USE,OF,GARY'S,MUSIC,IN,ADS,--------------------------,>Last,year,music,for,Cars,used,here,Quebec,for,beer,commercial,>(Labatt`s,Ice),complete,with,rotating,pyramids,la,Pleasure,Principle,>era,>,very,sci-fi,/,numanish,piece,but,how,does,Gary,feel,about,>his,>music,being,associated,with,product,?,I,thought,didn`t,drink,>or,has,thecopyright,expired,or,what,?,Then,again,if,well,paid,for,>it`s,use,why,not...,Tony,Webb,Gary's,dad,and,manager,said,usually,fans,who,bring,usage,Gary's,music,ads,films,etc.,to,attention.,Gary,does,not,have,rights,to,Beggars,Banquet,era,catalogue,so,cannot,control,useage,for,ads.,TOURING,WITH,GARY,-----------------,>Seems,LOT,us,planning,trip,UK,for,`96,I`m,very,much,>interested,keeping,up,on,this...As,for,meeting,him,I,guess,we`d,all,>want,>that,and,I,think,really,likes,his,fans,but,how,would,you,react,>if,>bunch,fans,overseas,think,they`re,somehow,more,special,>than,>others?,Of,course,our,perspective,and,help,keep,>dream,>alive,just,like,fan,our,problem,being,so,far,and,>touch,>we`d,really,hope,for,something,extra,like,chat,or,>autograph.You,can,be,>sure,if,we`d,live,UK,we`d,have,seen,him,>again,and,again,and,I,>for,one,wouldn`t,feel,so,frustrated,I,could,see,>him,tour,once,year.How,>do,you,reconcile,our,needs,and,his,wish,for,some,>distance,...?,I,ask,>for,sake,doing,properly,and,>respect,for,artist.,I`d,>like,everyone,to,really,enjoy,>experience.,As,Jeff,Tolva,posted,last,week,Numan,organization,does,make,special,efforts,for,people,coming,far-off,to,see,Gary,perform.,I,think,Gary,would,be,glad,to,at,least,say,hello,to,those,who,have,travelled,1000s,miles,and,spent,much,money,just,to,see,him.,I,emailed,Joe,Lindstrom,,with,details,how,to,go,about,making,arrangements,to,see,Gary,tour,and,make,contact,with,Beryl,Webb,his,mother.,If,people,organise,group,might,be,possible,to,follow,Gary,on,tour,and,even,meet,him.,I,think,Joe,central,person,to,contact,at,point,Good,luck,to,all,who,planning,to,make,trip.,Many,highly,improbable,events,would,have,to,happen,for,me,to,be,able,to,join,you.,Derek,--------------------------------------------------------------------------,Derek,H.,Langsford,dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu,Dept.,Biology,Tel.,(619),594,2885,San,Diego,State,University,Fax,(619),594,7831,--------------------------------------------------------------------------,------------------------------,Date:,Thu,10,Aug,95,06:02:00,UTC,From:,king1@genie.geis.com,Subject:,Road,Trip!,To:,numan@cs.uwp.edu,I,also,am,planning,on,going,to,UK,to,see,Numan.,Derek,do,you,think,there,way,to,let,folks,at,Numa,know,there,fans,hopping,pond,to,see,"The,Man"?,As,time,draws,closer,could,find,who,going,and,when.,It'd,be,great,if,you,could,join,us,you,do,want,baby,to,see,home,don't,you?,Shane,------------------------------,Date:,Thu,10,Aug,95,10:24:22,EDT,From:,Richard.Paiement@crc.doc.ca,(Richard,V.,Paiement),Subject:,White,Noise/Berserker,&,videotapes,To:,numan@cs.uwp.edu,(Gary,Numan),Derek,informed,us,that:,>Gary,and,I,have,exchanged,emails,and,have,settled,on,way,for,him,to,>be,part,Digest.,He,willing,to,participate,but,on,strictly,>limited,basis.,Excellent,news.,As,always,Derek,and,his,much,appreciated,efforts,make,forum,much,more,interesting.,We,could,even,suggest,to,Gary,make,available,exclusive,snippets,new,or,unavailable,audio,material,as,.wav,or,other,format,files,for,all,us.,Derek,replying,to,BDahlvang@aol.com:,>>,The,White,Noise,tape,perhaps,bootleg.,It's,>>from,Berserker,tour.,I,had,heard,years,ago,it's,double,album,>>set--White,Noise,and,Berserker.,Is,true?,And,if,so,where,can,I,>>acquire,another,copy,White,Noise?,>The,cassette,NUMAC,1002,and,not,bootleg.,I,don't,know,if,>ever,officially,marketed,with,"Berserker".,White,Noise,double,vinyl,album,by,itself.,I,have,never,heard,packaging,Berserker,(single,LP,studio),with,White,Noise,(double,LP,live).,>>I,even,had,video,Berserker,>>tour,but,only,worked,Brittish,VCRs.,I,Couldn't,use,states.,>There,US,release,1993,about,1,hour,original,show.,There,very,unclear,story,behind,all,this.,I,have,two,different,NTSC,versions,(not,transfers,not,copies,but,original,releases,with,pre-printed,tape,labels,and,box,sleeve),Berserker,live,videotape,one,which,about,1,hour,long,and,another,which,closer,to,2,hours,long.,I,never,really,sat,down,to,compare,both,but,for,sure,same,tour,and,I,don't,know,if,same,show!,I,can,add,I,acquired,both,these,record,stores,at,different,times,one,around,1988,and,another,around,1990.,There,very,little,information,on,packaging,except,I,do,remember,one,tapes,issued,by,Castle,Communications.,Does,anyone,know,why,different,NTSC,versions,and,also,case,with,PAL,(UK),formats?,Matthew,one,latest,members,on,digest,mentioned:,>Numanoids,won't,like,me,for,saying,but,I,like,most,music.,Geez!,If,you,could,see,my,Numan,collection,I,think,I,would,qualify,as,Numanoid,and,if,you,could,also,see,my,entire,music,collection,you,wouldn't,feel,so,place,as,I,also,like,most,music.,In,fact,I,am,quite,categoric,I,love,and,enjoy,wide,variety,styles,and,can,listen,to,just,about,anything...,except,country,&,western.,W.A.,Michie,asked:,>Hi,-,just,found,NetSite,for,GN.,I'm,wondering,if,anyone,knows,if,there's,>CD,version,"Pump,up",-,something,I,have,on,vinyl,back,states,(on,This,Berserker,album,available,(now,deleted,course),as,vinyl,cassette,and,CD,(I,have,all,three),and,as,Derek,informed,us,last,digest,will,soon,be,available,again,on,CD,(as,import,only,no,douht),thanks,to,NUMA.,Richard,Paiement,richard@dgbt.doc.ca,Ottawa,CANADA,------------------------------,End,Gary,Numan,Digest,******************************,_______________________________________________________________________,_____,____,____,_____,_____,/,\,|,|,/,\,/,\,/,\,/,\,|,|-----|,|-----|,|,|-----|,|-----|,|,|,|,G,|,|,A,|,|,|,R,|,|,Y,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|-----|,|-----|,|,|-----|,|-----|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,N,|,E,|,W,|,S,|=====|,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,&,|,|,|,|,|,|,|,\_____/,I,|,N,|,F,|,O,|,|,|,|,produced,and,distributed,by,Derek,Langsford,dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu,--------------------------------------------------------------------------,To,reply,to,messages,list,mail,to:,numan@cs.uwp.edu,If,you,want,to,be,removed,or,someone,wants,to,be,added,you,can,mail,to,numan-request@cs.uwp.edu,-----------------,The,Gary,Numan,Digest,brought,to,you,via,Datta,Production,and,Development,905,97th,Street,Kenosha,WI,53143,USA,datta@cs.uwp.edu,and,computer,resources,courtesy,University,Wisconsin-Parkside,and,Datta,Production,and,Development.,All,opinions,digest,belong,to,respective,authors,and,do,not,necessarily,agree,with,those,Datta,Production,and,Development.,Datta,Production,and,Development,not,affiliated,with,University,Of,Wisconsin,-,Parkside,or,University,Wisconsin,System.,--------------------------------------------------------------------------">
Einstuerzende Neubauten - 1 148
From numan@cs.uwp.eduMon Aug 14 11:41:38 1995 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:00:03 CDT From: numan@cs.uwp.edu To: Numanews Members Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #148
Gary Numan Digest Sun, 13 Aug 95 Volume 1 : Issue 148
Today's Topics: #2(2) Gary Numan Digest V1 #147 Congratulations to Derek!!! Discography Gary on line Hello fellow Numan fans minor points Numan and MTV Numan Fan!!!! Response to Andre's Qs Road Trip! White Noise/Berserker & videotapes ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 17:41:00 -0400 From: JazButcher@aol.com Subject: #2(2) Gary Numan Digest V1 #147 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu
Recently there was a listing of concert dates for Numan in 1996. I believe they were in April of next year. I've been contemplating a trip to England for some time now and would love to catch him concert. Does anyone have the dates for this shows in London?
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:26:49 MET From: Roock.Nilo.de@uniface.nl Subject: Congratulations to Derek!!! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu
I would like to congratulate Derek with his latest achievements: Gary-on-line and another release of Berserker. Thanks to Derek I believe we have one of the best lists around.
Any more news? Timeframes? What about Srange Charm, The Fury, Metal Rhythm?
Nilo de Roock (... Engage!...)
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 95 17:11:41 -0400 From: Janet Newlands Subject: Discography To: numan@cs.uwp.edu
Greetings, fellow Numan fans!
I am new to this Newsletter so please forgive me if this is a well-worn topic, but I would really appreciate help in determining as complete a discography of Gary Numan as is possible. I thought I had most/all of his stuff (other than bootlegs or impossibly rare Imports) but as I have read this Newsletter I run across names that I don't recognize. I have been a Numan fan since the early 80's and would like to be able to go into a store and ask them to order specific CD titles (and not be asked 'Isn't he the guy who did "Short People"?'). I will list what I have so that it may be easier for people answering this request to fill in the gaps. I understand that the "2 on 1" CD collections have been re-pressed to make full 2 CD sets now. I have listed the CD's I have by catalog number so people who sadly do not have some of these may find it easier to order from their local stores.
BEGA4CD Tubeway Army/Dance BEGA7CD Replicas/The Plan BEGA10CD The Pleasure Principle/Warriors BEGA19CD Telekon/I Assassin BEGA88CD Exhibition NUMACD1002 White Noise CDNUMA1003 The Fury CDNUMA1005 Strange Charm NUMACD1007 Ghost NUMACDX1009 Machine & Soul Extended NUMACD1010 Dream Corrosion ILPCD035 Metal Rhythm IRSD-82005 New Anger IRSD-82023 The Skin Mechanic X2 13077 Outland RRCD 170 The Other Side of Gary Numan CCSCD 229 The Collection 839 520-2 Automatic (Sharpe and Numan)
I also have vinyls of most of these, plus Living Ornaments 79/80 and lots of singles and EP's. I guess this is a good start but I'd like as complete a library as possible, however (I realize that this may be blasphemous) I'm not terribly interested in much he did in the really early years (pre 1980's). Thanks in advance. By the way, one of my greatest personal achievements was converting my college roommate (who before meeting me listened almost exclusively to Irish Pipe music, madrigals and folk-tunes) to being a enthusiastic Numan fan.
Gary forever!!!
-janet newlands, born 8 days after GJAW
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:59:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Amy E Logsdon Warner Subject: Gary on line To: numan@cs.uwp.edu
Derek, I think we all owe you a great round of applause and a hearty thanks for all of the work you have done. The results are worth it, to be able to ask GN question online and to visit his upcoming web site *and* to be hopeful of obtaining Berzerker on CD was quite a coup. Thank you from the bottom of my heart! What a way to start my day, I'll be smiling in spite of myself for the rest of the day!
Amy Logsdon Warner University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
My opinions are my own and I'm pretty sure they aren't those of this institution.
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 16:08:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Subject: Hello fellow Numan fans To: numan@cs.uwp.edu
Hello all, I am new to this mailing list, and I am writing a bit about myself like the intruduction suggested. My name's Noah, I'm too young to remember any early Numan. But I own quite a few of his albums, I am really fond of "I, Assasin" "Replicas" "Dance" I have "Living Ornaments" on video and LP I really like listening to my "Change your mind" 12" I found (been looking for it for a long time) I like ke the Tubeway Army as well. (weren't they originally called "The Lasers?") My orther music tastes are a wide range. I mostly listen to Peter Murphy and a lot of 4AD stuff (Cocteau Twins, DCD, etc.) Like a lot of Bauhaus-L&R-ToT music...I am also very big on new wave. Well that's just about all, hope to get the Numan News Digest soon. Cheers -Noah
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:19:45 -0700 (PDT) From: atomic@netcom.com (Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City) Subject: minor points To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Numanews Mailing List)
Derek, thanks for the welcome news about Gary's onlineness; I hope he doesn't get hunted down and spammed by well-meaning fans who think that 'he won't mind if only I talk to him'....
If you read this, Gary, welcome and it's nice to see you here on the Net.
And I'll put in my vote for enjoying meeting the guy; we met at a show in Cleveland on the "I Assassin" tour. I was nervous as heck but he was very relaxed and friendly. A nice experience overall.
E please bob,
mike -- mike metlay * atomic city | .......one new telephone - a pressure cooker - a = atomic@netcom.com = | ventilator - four bars of chocolate - six pairs cd mailorder po box 81175 | of socks - a yellow clock - a pink ski shell - a pittsburgh, pa 15217-0675 | box of condoms - one baby leopard - a pot of jam or order from our website | - a safety pin - an iron - a red shoe - a camera http://pd.net/atomic-city | - one ton of peanuts - a black bra - a silver or via infinite illusions | fork - a typewriter - an electric train - three toll free: 1-800-548-6724 | tons of strawberriestrawberriestrawberries......
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 16:32:24 +0000 From: "iwisman" Subject: Numan and MTV To: numan@cs.uwp.edu
I saw it came from the eighties and commented in the last digest. I agree it is sad that only cars was played. Oh those ignorant bastards. As I stated before I did see "We Take Mystery to Bed one time on MTV in the early eighties, "I Assassin version" although I would like to see the extended or early version. Of of I wonder if a video of "Music for Chameleons" extended version exists. If I ever
meet Gary
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:04:55 -0400 (EDT) From: rmilam@st6000.sct.edu (Ralph Milam) Subject: Numan Fan!!!! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu
I just thought I would write to get more info on what you are doing with the Gary Numan digest,etc. I just got an Internet account and was looking around for Numan stuff and I saw the digest. I thought I was about the only fan of his in the U.S. and was giving up hope of finding other people interested in him. So you can imagine my surprise at finding you and the others. Anyway I hope to hear back from you with maybe some more information. Thank You!
Ralph Milam rmilam@st6000.sct.edu
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:14:06 -0800 From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Subject: Response to Andre's Qs To: numan@cs.uwp.edu
In #147 ANDRE LORTIE <102162.2077@compuserve.com> wrote:
DISCOGRAPHY ------------- >Downloaded the discography this week , there are a few omissions (2 >>versions of Your fascination , 2 compilation albums on Receiver records >& >a single , Like a refugee ( I wont cry) on which Gary`s voice is >simply / >utterly fantastic in case you haven`t heard it. When is the next >update >planned ?
Planned? Who says anything here planned? :-)
Jeff Tolva did the last update but as you say, there are still some things that need to be added. Someday someone may get around to it. That's the best I can promise.
DREAM CORROSION AND DARK LIGHT ------------------------------ >Dream Corrosion is listed but I keep seeing people talking about Dark >>Light ,are they one and the same?
No, they are different live double albums. "Dream Corrosion" was released in October 94 and was the London leg of Gary's 1993 UK concert tour. "Dark Light" was released June 5 1995 and is one of the London shows from Gary's 1994 Sacrifice Tour. Only 5 tracks are the same on each so they make a pretty good companion too each other. DC sound quality is below par but DL sounds great. Does anyone have a DC CD that sound sharp? Perhaps I'll follow it up with Gary in the first "Gary's Questions" as he has already indicated it should sound crisp and clear which clearly many of ours do not.
>Which brings me to what I`m missing : > I still remember > Adrenalin > My world storm > Dream corrosion( aka Dark Light ?) >Not bad for a guy that lives in a city where about 2 stores carry his >>music! Any chance of my finding them?
"I Still Remember" is on "The Fury" but the CD is rare having gone out of print many years ago. It will also be on one of the Uk Fan Club-only Babylon CDs.
"Adrenalin" was released as Numan/Yen and was put out as a CD5 to my knowledge. IRS though have washed their hands of Numan and Yen product so finding it will again be hard.
My World Storm is an album track from "Outland" adn also appreared on 12" vinyl in the USA. Again you'll need luck finding it. Tony B.- do you have it for sale?
DC should be available on CD easily. Like "Dark Light" it is an import only from the UK.
USE OF GARY'S MUSIC IN ADS -------------------------- >Last year the music for Cars was used here in Quebec for a beer commercial >(Labatt`s Ice), complete with rotating pyramids a la Pleasure Principle >era >,it was a very sci-fi / numanish piece, but how does Gary feel about >his >music being associated with this product ? I thought he didn`t drink >or has thecopyright expired or what ? Then again if he was well paid for >it`s use why not...
Tony Webb, Gary's dad and manager, said it is usually fans who bring usage of Gary's music in ads, films etc. to their attention. Gary does not have rights to the Beggars Banquet era catalogue so he cannot control useage of it for ads.
TOURING WITH GARY ----------------- >Seems a LOT of us are planning a trip in the UK for `96 ,I`m very much >interested in keeping up on this...As for meeting him I guess we`d all >want >that and I think he really likes his fans but how would you react >if a >bunch of fans from overseas think they`re somehow more special >than >others? Of course from our perspective we are and we help keep the >dream >alive just like any fan , our problem is being so far and out of >touch, >we`d really hope for something extra like a chat or an >autograph.You can be >sure that if we`d live in the UK we`d have seen him >again and again and I >for one wouldn`t feel so frustrated , I could see >him tour once a year.How >do you reconcile our needs and his wish for some >distance ...? I ask this >for the sake of doing it properly and out of >respect for the artist. I`d >like everyone to really enjoy the >experience.
As Jeff Tolva posted last week, the Numan organization does make special efforts for people coming from far-off to see Gary perform. I think Gary would be glad to at least say hello to those who have travelled 1000s of miles and spent much money just to see him. I emailed Joe Lindstrom with details of how to go about making arrangements to see Gary tour and make contact with Beryl Webb, his mother. If people organise in a group it might be possible to follow Gary on tour and even meet him. I think Joe is the central person to contact at this point
Good luck to all who are planning to make the trip. Many highly improbable events would have to happen for me to be able to join you.
Derek
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:02:00 UTC From: king1@genie.geis.com Subject: Road Trip! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu
I also am planning on going to the UK to see Numan. Derek, do you think that there is a way to let the folks at Numa know that there are fans hopping the pond to see "The Man"?
As the time draws closer we could find out who is going and when.
It'd be great if you could join us, you do want the baby to see home don't you?
Shane
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:24:22 EDT From: Richard.Paiement@crc.doc.ca (Richard V. Paiement) Subject: White Noise/Berserker & videotapes To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan)
Derek informed us that:
>Gary and I have exchanged emails and we have settled on a way for him to >be part of the Digest. He is willing to participate but on a strictly >limited basis.
Excellent news. As always, Derek and his much appreciated efforts make this forum much more interesting. We could even suggest to Gary that he make available exclusive snippets of new or unavailable audio material as .wav or other format files for all of us.
Derek was replying to BDahlvang@aol.com:
>> The White Noise tape is perhaps a bootleg. It's >>from the Berserker tour. I had heard years ago that it's a double album >>set--White Noise and Berserker. Is that true? And if so, where can I >>acquire another copy of White Noise?
>The cassette was NUMAC 1002 and was not a bootleg. I don't know if it was >ever officially marketed with "Berserker".
White Noise is a double vinyl album by itself. I have never heard of any packaging of Berserker (single LP studio) with White Noise (double LP live).
>>I even had a video of the Berserker >>tour, but it only worked in Brittish VCRs. I Couldn't use it in the states.
>There was a US release in 1993 of about 1 hour of the original show.
There is a very unclear story behind all of this. I have two different NTSC versions (not transfers, not copies, but the original releases with pre-printed tape labels and box sleeve) of this Berserker live videotape, one which is about 1 hour long, and another which is closer to 2 hours long. I never really sat down to compare both, but they are for sure of the same tour, and I don't know if they are of the same show! I can add that I acquired both of these in record stores at different times, one around 1988, and another around 1990. There is very little information on the packaging, except that I do remember one of the tapes was issued by Castle Communications. Does anyone know why the different NTSC versions, and is this also the case with the PAL (UK) formats?
Matthew, one of the latest members on the digest, mentioned:
>Numanoids won't like me for saying this, but I like most music.
Geez! If you could see my Numan collection, I think I would qualify as a Numanoid, and if you could also see my entire music collection, you wouldn't feel so out of place, as I also like most music. In fact, I am quite categoric in that I love and enjoy a wide variety of styles, and can listen to just about anything... except country & western.
W.A. Michie asked:
>Hi - just found the NetSite for GN. I'm wondering if anyone knows if there's a >CD version of "Pump it up" - something I have on vinyl back in the states (on
This is from the Berserker album, available (now deleted, of course) as vinyl, cassette and CD (I have all three), and as Derek informed us in the last digest, will soon be available again on CD (as an import only, no douht), thanks to NUMA.
Richard Paiement richard@dgbt.doc.ca Ottawa CANADA
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